Errata for Jamie Allen's Fabulous Pedigree
I am in a hurry to publish Version 84 during 2017,
so I have left some corrections unincorporated for now.
These should all be incorporated into the
database when Version 85 is published early in 2018.
If you've submitted a correction which doesn't appear in my database,
please check to see if it is still in this errata list."
- I love your website, it is so informative and a great piece of work, but I noticed that Agnes de Lacy, is shown as the daughter of Walter de Lacy, 1st Lord of Weobley, and married to Geoffrey Talbot. According to The Manors of Kent Agnes who married Geoffrey Talbot, is shown as the daughter of the Gundulph of Rochester Castle, and that they had a son Geoffrey, who was the heir, a daughter Sybil, who it is stated, confirmed the grants of her parents to the Convent at Colchester and a daughter Adeline, who married Hugh de Lacy, 3rd Lord of Weobley, and that they had a daughter Sybil, who married Payn fitzJohn. Sybil and Payn had two daughters only, Cecily, who married three times, but had no issue from any marriages Roger fitzMiles, earl of Hereford, William d'Anjou, Count of Poitou, and Walter de Mayenne. 2nd daughter, Agnes married Warin de Munchanesi of Swanscombe Kent, where the Talbot family came from, had issue Agnes's 2nd marriage was to Stephen de Biden.
Sybil de Lacy's 2nd marriage was to Josce de Dinan, they had two daughters, Hawise, who married Sir Fulk II fitzWarin, had issue. Other daughter Sybil, married Hugh de Plugenet, had issue.
- Hello Jamie, please delete the note in pedigree of Agatha the Bulgarian saying it is the correct pedigree there is no correct or incorrect pedigree in Agatha her parentage is controversial. The only incorrect pedigree is the one that makes her daughter of Heinrich II that is impossible since Heinrichi II left no children. The Bulgarian theory is unlikely and should be marked prob.not in your database since it has three problems: first it hasn't primary source support, second it involves guesswork and if that guesswork fails the theory looses many of its support and third it is chronologically unlikely.
- Hello Jamie, I'll give you some corrections about the wifes of Uchtred of Nortrumbia he had no children with his first wife Eggfrida she was repudiated Aldred was in fact son of Sigen. Also Uchtred's third wife Elgifu was indeed daughter of Elthred II that is documented by Simeon of Durham so please delete the note in the alternative pedigree of her saying it is the correct one.
- Hello Jamie, here is the more likely reconstruction of the ancestors of Raymond I of Toulouse.
Fredelon of unknown ancestry married a relative of Childebrand of Autun, that her name was Senegonde is certainly a confusion with her daughter-in-law Foucaud married Senegonde probably daughter of Heribert of Gellone, he probably had a brother named Fulchard Raymond I of Toulouse
- Jamie, I would like to give you some corrections about the Thomas Wentworth that you show as having been husband of Margaret or Grace Gascoigne you have a bit of a conflation in those connections the thing is there were two different Thomas Wentworth here. Thomas Wentworth son of Thomas Wentworth and Jane Mirfield married Grace Gascoigne and Thomas Wentworth son of William Wentworth and Catherine Beeston married Margaret Gascoigne. I think you should also delete the note in Margaret's page saying it is the correct pedigree. There is also some confusion about the relationship between the two Thomas that I will search and tell you later.
- Helllo Jamie, Elizabeth Hastings wife of Peter Hildyard was indeed daughter of John de Hastings not his sister please remove the skip this generation?.
- Hello Jamie, Maria Beatriz de Guzman was not daughter of Violante de Aragon she was daughter of Enrique Perez de Guzman by an unknown mistress. Modern scholars agree that Enrique and Violante's marriage was childless.
- Hello Jamie, sorry, I misread Geni says William's wife was Margred av Ieuan (verch Thomas) Bartrum's notes here http://cadair.aber.ac.uk/dspace/bitstream/handle/2160/5264/BLEDDYN%20AP%20CYNFYN%2056%20%28A%2c%20B%2c%20C%29_159.png?sequence=2&isAllowed=y it says Margred verch Thomas not Ieuan. Ieuan was the name of William's not Margred's father. Geni's discussion in https://www.geni.com/discussions/170319 comes to the conclusion that Joan is completely fictitious. No early document mentions her. She was also debated once in soc.genealogy.medieval and Douglas Richardson said he had never heard of her and that he believed she was fictitious. So Wiliam's wife was Margred verch Thomas. Bartrum does not extend her ancestry further.
Jasper had only one documented illegitimate daughter Helen. Helen married not John Gardiner but William Gardiner a skinner and was mother not of Bishop Stephen Gardiner but of Thomas Gardiner, Prior of Tynemouth.
So Joan certainly fictitious and so I suggest putting Not!.
About Clemence de Foix she was result of a mix of a misinterpration of a charter and a conjecture by the late genealogist Szabolcs de Vajay so she was an accidental fiction.
Also about changes I don't mean to be rude but I would warn you that accidentally you put notes in some pedigrees saying they were the correct ones when either we don't know for sure or the other one is the correct one. I would advise to be very careful when analyzing alternatives and the likelihood of each of them.
- Hello Jamie, Arnold of Lubeck in his Chronica Slavorum says that when he and Duke Heinrich the Lion of Bavaria perigrinated to Jerusalem in 1172 they were met by Sultan Qilij Arslan II near Tarsus, Qirlij then embraced and kissed Heinrich saying they were blood cousins. Then Heinrich asked about the details of the relationship and Qirlij said that a german princess married a russian king and that they had a daughter, that that daughter's daughter came to their lands and that he was descendend from her.
So it would be
German princess married Russian king
Daughter married NN
Daughter married a Turkish sultan either parents or more distant ancestors of
Qirlij Arslan II
This is very interesting and intriguing because then Qirlij Arslan II would likely have a descent from Charlemagne and given that both him and his Seljuk descendants certainly had numerous mistresses and illegitimate sons then many people today in the Middle East would have a Charlemagne descent. There is a theory by Professor Nazarenko that the russian king in question was Svyatoslav II whose second wife was probably a german princess named Oda von Elsdorf daughter of Lippold of Stade and Ida von Elsdorf and that the russian king and the german princess' daughter married a byzantine nobleman and then their daughter married Musad I and was mother of Qirlij Arslan II. I suggest you add this possibility to the database.
Also there is no reason to doubt Quirlij's statement he would not gain anything from inventing such story.
- Hello Jamie, Geoffroy de Chaumont en Vexin probably didn't really exist he comes fron an old conjecture that the seigneurs de Chaumont and Guitry were descendants of Geoffroy documented son of Gautier I however that theory isn't believed by scholars anymore. Geoffroy son of Gautier as I already told you is now believed to have been Geoffroy II of Gatinais and Eudes de Chaumont en Vexin was actually Eudes de Beaumont sur Oise from a family in the same area who was erroneously puted in this pedigree probably to fill in the gap between Geoffroy and Robert. About Robert de Chaumont en Vexin's likely origins he was probably son of a seigneur de Poissy.
- Hello Jamie, in the last version you added a large DNA tree includig R1b-DF13 Y Haplogroup whose progenitor was a Great King of Western Bell Beaker which is technically called King DF13 his descendants are heavily in Great Britain and Ireland he was born around 2400 BC. I note that around the same time in Amesbury near Stonehenge there was an archer that is called Amesbury Archer. I believe that archaelogically due to the Bell Beaker culture, chronologically, socially due to his good burial and geographically due to his position in Great Britain he could be related to King DF13. What do you think?
- Hello Jamie, Gundreda wife of William I de Warrene WAS NOT daughter of William the Conqueror and Matilda of Flanders and also WAS NOT daughter of Matilda by a previous marriage to Gerbod. Those old theories were already discredited and were based on some misinterpreations and false charters . She was daughter of Gerbod and his unknown wife.
- Hello Jamie, Priscilla Grey daughter of the Earl of Kent Anthony Grey DID NOT marry Matthew Grant. Matthew DID MARRY a Priscilla but they were not the same person. That is know because of some records Priscilla Grey only born in 1615 while Priscilla wife of Matthew had born in 1601 and Priscilla Grey is known to have married a certain John St Nichols.
- Hello Jamie, you give the mother of Elisabeth de Brabant wife of Thierry de Cleves and daughter of Henry I the Pious of Brabant as Matilda of Boulogne or poss. Marie Capet. Well I can confirm her mother was Marie Capet she was Henry and Marie's only surviving child.
- Hello Jamie, in the page of your ancestress Joan Prutteston you list her father but don't list her mother however her mother is known to have been Margaret Redmayne through who a descent from Henry I of England can be traced see http://humphrysfamilytree.com/Royal/Larson/a/Hen1-Roddenberry.pdf. So you have a closer royal descent than Adalbert II.
- Hello Jamie, Katherine wife of John Walker WAS NOT daughter of William Hutchinson and Ann Marbury, William and Ann DID HAVE a daughter named Katherine but she died in the indigenous attack.
- Hello Jamie, about Llewyln Fawr's children's motherhood Gruffyd was certainly by Tanglwystl. Dafydd, Ellen and Susanna were certainly by Joan. Gwladys, Angharad, Margaret and Ellen were probably by Joan. Tegwared was by a woman named as Crysten in some sources. I think you should retire the note in Joan's page saying she's the right mother and put a note in Llywelyn's page giving the maternity or probable maternity of each child.
- Hello Jamie, you show Dorothy St. Leger wife of William Kingsmill's main pedigree the one making her daughter of Warham St. Leger as the correct one however it isn't it was already refuted years ago please remove that note. The alt pedigree is the correct one given a document mentioning William Kingsmill and William St. Leger as brothers-in-law. Please put a note there.
- My question is about this Gilbert de Rouergue: http://fabpedigree.com/s080/f242037.htm
How did you get the information for his mother???
I cannot find a connection elsewhere between these two.
You wright "possible", but you must have found something.
I would be glad about an answer.
- Hello Jamie, you say John's pedigree in http://fabpedigree.com/s028/f207563.htm is the correct one however it is not please remove that note. It is this pedigree http://fabpedigree.com/s078/f084384.htm the correct one it is given by both Alison Weir and The Complete Peerage.
- Hello Jamie, you've made some online posts about Alexander Sinclair and his Drummond DNA and suggest that he was descended from an adultery with the Drummonds however this webpage http://www.stclairresearch.com/content/groupingsVa.html gives evidence that Alexander Sinclair belonged to a different Sinclair family not from the Highlands but from the Lowlands.
- Hello Jamie, the parentage of Richard Hildyard is indeed correct and well documented please put it as certain.
- Hello Jamie you show Janet Douglas http://fabpedigree.com/s059/f041446.htm as wife of both Thomas Erskine and Patrick Hepburn however that is incorrect. This Janet the daughter of James Douglas and Jane Stewart was wife only of Patrick Hepburn. Thomas Erskine married a different Janet Douglas. The identification of the two used to be believed but as been shown as being chronologically impossible.
- Hello Jamie, you show a Gisela von Wetterau as possible mother of Hermann IV of Swabia instead of Gisela of Swabia however that is incorrect. Hermann IV is well documented to have been Gisela of Swabia's son and half-brother of Heinrich III. Actually this supossed Gisela von Wetterau didn't exist neither did her supossed father Bruno of Weterrau. Gerberga of Upper Burgundy didn't marry a Bruno she just married firstly Herman I von Werl and secondly Hermann II of Swabia.
- Hello Jamie, please remove Randolph Jefferson as a possible father for Eston Hemmings. There is no reason to believe Randolph was Eston's father. Randolph rarely visted Monticello. This idea of Randolph being Eston's father comes mainly as an excuse to avoid Thomas Jefferson being considered a bad man.
- Hello Jamie, I can confirm Robert White was really son of Eleanor Hungerford. Please remove the skip?.
- Hello Jamie, I can confirm that the Henry Davenport who married Elizabeth Talbot was indeed Henry and Lettice's son please put the linkas certain. However Henry Davenport and Elizabeth Talbot were NOT parents of the William Davenport who married Grace Alloway. Henry Davenport and Elizabeth Talbot DID have a son named William but recent research available in http://www.jwgs.co.uk/images/davenport.pdf shows he was NOT the same man as the one who married Grace Alloway. The William son of Henry was born in Shropsire in 1679 or 1680 and very likely was the same as the one who married Sarah Kent and died at sea in Mediterrean in 1707. The William who married Grace Alloway probably was born in Reading and baptside there in 1682 as son of Laurence Davenport and Elizabeth Lewis. Laurence Davenport was a surgeon who worked in the Royal African Company and spent several years in Sierra Leone where he died about 1693 and Elizabeth died in Reading in 1712.
Please also alter the date of birth for the William who married Grace Alloway.
Unfortunately Catherine Middleton looses her descent from Henry VIII.
- Hello Jamie, I can confirm the mother of the children of Alexander Stewart of Albany was indeed his wife Catherine Sinclair. Sometimes the children are given as illegitimate because their parents's marriage was dissolved and the children were declared illegitimate and couldn't inherit anything.
- Hello Jamie, Margaret wife of Robert Cobert WAS NOT daughter of William Mallory. That is an old error that was disproved in the 90's. William Mallory was actually her second husband.
- Hello Jamie, I would like to give you some corrections about Ramnulf I's family. You give Gerad's wife and Ramnulf I's mother as Hildegarde/Rotrude however Hildegarde and Rotrude were two distinct women, sisters, daughters of Louis I the Pious and Ermengarde de Hesbaye. And probably neither of them was Gerard's wife and Ramnulf's mother. That idea was based on a passage that mentioned that Gerard I de Auvergne was a gener of Pepin de Aquitaine. Because of chronological reasons some thought gener meant brother-in-law but as Christian Settipani explained given the context of the passage it is more likely that gener had his usal meaning of son-in-law. Chronologically Pepin de Aquitaine couldn't be grandfather of Ramnulf I. So Ramnulf I must be a son of a first marriage of Gerard. Settipani eventually came with a good conjecture that Ramnulf I's mother was Adaltrude daughter of Rorgon I de Maine and his mistress Rotrude daughter of Charlemagne. That is based on documents mentioning that Abbot Ebles of Saint-Dennis son of Ramnulf I was nepos of the Abbot Gauzlin (later Bishop of Paris) son of Rorgon I and that Ramnulf I was consaguineous (blood relative) of Raino II d'Heubarges son of Raino I'd Heubarges son of Hervé brother of Rorgon I. The conjecture by some that Ramnulf I's wife was Billichide daughter of Rorgon I and his wife Bilichilde can not explain the second reference and therefore since the two references of a relationship must refer to the same one it can not explain anything. It is also known that Ramnulf I's son Ramnulf II was cousin of Guillaume le Pieux and the Bilichilde conjecture can not explain it so Settipani conjectures that Ramnulf I's wife was a paternal aunt of Guillaume le Pieux and daughter of Bernard of Septimanie.
Billichilde was daughter of Rorgon I not Rorgon II and Rorgon II had no wife named Bilichilde Rorgon I had. Billichilde was daughter of Bilichilde and Rorgon I and wife only of Bernard de Poitiers.
- Hello Jamie, Eudes de Cambrai is a complete fiction.
From the Henry II Project:
This falsehood, which has been picked up by some printed and internet references, is based largely on George Andrews Moriarty's The Plantagenet Ancestry, which in turn was evidently based on the work of a certain T. Friedrich von Stauffenberg. The account (in Moriarty's handwriting) reads as follows [Moriarty, 277]:
"T. Friedrich von Stauffenberg Esq. M. B. of Washington, D. C. has made an extensive study of the neglected cadets of the counts of Flanders and their descendants, based on the chartularies of the abbeys of St. Omer, St. Pierre, St. Bavo, Notre Dame d'Ourscamp and Cysoing and the most reliable chronicles of the Flemish region."
"The records of St. Pierre de Cambrai record an [sic] remembrance for the soul of Count Odo (Eudes), son of Count Arnulf, and Susanne 'lately Queen of France (i.e. Susanne of Italy, who married 1st Arnulf Count of Flanders and 2ndly Robert King of France before 988, divorced 992, cf. p. 14 ante). It provides for prayers for his soul and the souls of his father Arnulf, his mother Susanne, his sister Mathilda, widow of Guilbert de Beaumont.' "
"Eudes caused a scandal by marrying his neice [sic] Adele de Beaumont, daughter of Mathilda . He was anathematized by Pope Benedict IX and a letter of his brother Count Baldwin IV to the Pope in 1012 regarding the matter is in Migne P.L. vol. 116[?] or 117[?]. Adele died before 1015/16 and the chartularies of both St. Peter de Cambrai and St. Omer record Eudes' charters "in Poenitentia." He remarried Adele daughter of Thibaud Seigneur of Bois Ferrand, called 'Thibaud de Louvain' by Alberic de Trois Fontaines, Orderic Vitalis and William of Jumièges. By his first wife he had 2 sons Richard and Roger who joined the Normans in Italy and by his second wife Adele of Bois Ferrand he had Englebert of Brienne (see vols. ix, p. 84 and xiii, p. 257), Roger Count of St. Pol, and Peter Count of Arlon."
This is followed by a genealogical table repeating the above information in tabular form. The page numbers in the two references to Migne are difficult to read in Moriarty's handwriting, and could be volumes 126-7 or 136-7. Moriarty's work is essentially a collection of handwritten notes, based largely on secondary sources, and was certainly not intended to be published in its present form. In the present case, it seems unlikely that Moriarty did any further research of his own to follow up the notes he took from Stauffenberg's work (which I have not seen). If he had, he would undoubtedly have noticed that Benedict VIII (not IX) was pope in 1012, and that volumes 116-7 (or 126-7, 136-7) do not contain letters of either Benedict. In addition, there appears to be no reference to a 'Thibaut de Louvain' in the works of Aubry de Troisfontaines, Orderic Vitalis, or Guillaume de Jumièges. Furthermore, standard histories of the city of Cambrai make no mention of this Eudes, despite the fact that the alleged marriage of a count to his own niece that attracted the attention of the pope would, if true, be a notable event that historians would be unlikely to miss. I know of no evidence which would confirm even the existence of count Eudes of Cambrai (or of either of his two wives, or of Guilbert de Beaumont, etc.). Given that the bibliographical references do not seem to check out, it is difficult to regard these claims as anything other than a fabrication.`
So it can be concluded that Eudes of Cambrai never existed no wonder why his supposed sons have totally incompatible dates because those are spurious genealogies. Eudes's two wifes probably also never existed and the same goes for Guibert, Thibaud and Sconhilde. Mathilde daughter of Arnulf II did exist but she probably didn't marry such man as Guibert de Beaumont.
- Hello Jamie, Godefroid de Bouillon died unmarried and childless he DID NOT marry Beatrice de Mandeville and WAS NOT the father of William de Bouillon. The husband of Beatrice and father of William was actually his illegitimate paternal half-brother Geoffrey son of Eustace by a mistres. And Godefroid's mother was really Ida de Lorraine not Goda.
- Hello Jamie, Benedict Calvert's mother was certainly not Mary Janson since Mary was his father's wife and Benedict was illegitimate. Please put NOT! in that relationship. Whether or not his mother was Petronilla depends on how much weight we put on George Sydney Horace Lee Washington's ideas known to have invetend some things although the Petronilla-Benedict connection was just treated by him as a theory not an absolutr fact. But we do know that Benedict's mother was a high society lady in England and Petronilla certainly fits the profile I would mark it as poss. and would not exclude it so much as another correspondent did.
- Hello Jamie in the note in http://fabpedigree.com/s088/f341242.htm there is a note saying `68% R1b (the proto-Basque population which repopulated W. Europe 13-16,000 years ago)' as explained in http://fabpedigree.com/s094/f343117.htm that was an old idea totally incompatible with chronolgy. Please delete that piece of text and instead write something like Indo-European neolithic invasion from Eastern Europe.
- Hello Jamie, it is Alice de Grey wife of William Knyvett's alt pedigree the correct one that was proved by a article several years ago. The confusion was because Reginald Grey had two sons named John who lived into adult life.
- Hello Jamie, plese remove (NN), Rogneida's 1st husband as a a possible father for Isjaslaw. Recent research has conclusively proved his status as Vladimir's son.
- Hello Jamie, I suggest you put the link between Alpin MacEochaid and Eochaid IV as certain and delete the commoner thing .There may be certain scholars with suspicion about Kenneth MacAlpin's ancestry but I personally see little reason to doubt it. Actually it is perfectly expected to Kenneth having belonged to the Dál Riada dynasty.
- Hello Jamie, unfortunately your royal descent from Henry I is not true. Margaret Redmayne married Thomas Preston not John Preston and besides Thomas de Musgrave was son not of Isabel de Berkeley but of Margaret de Roos so about Thomas's motherhood you don't have to alter anything.
This is not fair why do you loose so many royal descents?
- Hello Jamie, Regnier V's child was actually Hermann not Richilde. That his child was Hermann not Richilde was proved by Vanderkindere.
- Hello Jamie in Gersenda du Maine's page you show two possible d'Este husbands and ask which of them was her true husband. Well I can confirm she married Alberto Azzo II and also her parentage as daughter of Heribert I is well known so please put it as certain but remain the poss. to Paule de Preuilly because I'm doubtful about that.
- Hello Jamie, I can clean up the mess about the two daughters of Alfonso IV named Elvira. It was Elvira illegitimate daughter of Alfonso VI and Jimena Munoz who married Raymond IV de Toulouse and Fernando Fernandez. It was Elvira legitimate daughter of Alfonso VI and "Queen Isabel" , probably the same as Zaida , who married Roger II Guiscard.
- Hello Jamie, Joseph Hull WAS NOT married to Joanna Coffin. That was an old speculation but now we know Joanna Coffin was only about 3 years old when the supposed marriage took place.
- Hello Jamie you list Judith of Bohemia as the mother of all of Wladyslaw I of Poland's children however that is incorrect. Judith of Bohemia was mothe only of Boleslaw III of Poland. The other children were all by his second wife Judith widow of Solomon of Hungary and daughter of Heinrich III of Germany. Also Wladuslaw I DID NOT have a daughter married to David Igoverich. We know from the polish chronicler Gallus that one of the daughters of Wladyslaw I married a russian prince. There was an old theory that the russian prince was David Igoverich however that theory is certainly wrong and the modern consensus is that the russian prince was Yaroslav I Svyatapolkich.
- Hello Jamie, I may have had a bit of problem with the info in Shrosphire Wolcott DNA that I gave you previously. The information is in http://www.wolcottfamily.com/dna.html the relevant part says RP312>L21>DF13 (Celtic)>DF63. The problem is that DF63 is a brother clade not a son clade of DF13. How should this be interpreted?
- Hello Jamie, Thomas Butter was not of Ormonde and was not a Butler that is one of the biggest errors ever made in the internet it seems that someone mispeled Butter as Butler giving Thomas a completely fictional ancestry.
- Hello Jamie, about Alice de Camoys's motherhood recent evidence indicates her to have been daughter of Elizabeth de Mortimer.
- Hello Jamie, I want to minimize what I said in the previous email. The evidence of Elizabeth Mortimer being Alice's mother is probably not that strong and the researcher Douglas Richardson the one who gave the evidence has now changed his mind and firmly says Elisabeth de Louches was Alice's mother. So please keep what you already have in the database.
- Hello Jamie, Elizabeth Yorke wife of Edmund Perceval's parentage is now well documented please put it as certain.
- Hello Jamie, Thomas Lawrence's mother was certainly Elizabeth Bull not Margaret Roberts. Thomas's royal descent through Elizabeth was proved by Greene.
- Hello Jamie, William Stafford of Bishop's Frome WAS NOT son of Humphrey II Stafford and Margaret Beaufort and WAS NOT husband of Catherine Chidioc. He was husband of Elizabeth Wrottesley daughter of Hugh Wrottesley and Thomasine Gresley and he was son of Humphrey Stafford and Margaret Lichfield daughter of William Lichfield and his unknown second wife. Humphrey was son of John Stafford and Elizabeth Cheyne daughter of John Cheyne and Margaret Devereux. John was son of Ralph Stafford and Maud Hastang.
- Hello Jamie, I can confirm Elizabeth Grey wife of John Ludlow's father was indeed Richard Grey. Her fatherhood was conclusively established by David Topping. Also Margaret Touchet's first marriage with Roger Vaughan was probably childless.
- Hello Jamie, I want to give you corrections on the ancestry of Christopher Branch. Firstly the Jennings-Bostock link is wrong and was disproved it is chronogically impossible. However don't feel sad about the royal descent because it has been proven that Richard Braunche's wife was Elizabeth Bostock so there is still a royal descent.
- Hi Jamie
Love your website and tell everyone it is a great Finding Aid no matter how fabulous. Just thought I'd tell you I found a solution on Darrel Wolcott's website ancientwalesstudies.org about Macsen Wledid.
You have [alt ped] next to one of your Macsen Wledig s
Mr Wolcott says there were two Macsen Wledigs One born around 273CE and the other in 330 or so. He says the earlier one married Elen daughter of Eudaf the old and was not called Magnus Maximus. The later one in the 4th century was called Magnus Maximus. He's the one leading down to Prawst and the early one leads down to Brychan's mother Marchell..
Have a look at his study of dates, time spans between generations. He has a great point to help me line up the generations in my tree down from Brychan etc.
Thanks for all your work and don't join the Anonymous, it's the reason you a re alive.
- Hello Jamie, your pedigree of Sir Alexander Lindsay's wife is incorrect and was disproved by John P. Ravilious who proposed two alternatives see https://www.google.pt/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwj5wtn_47nXAhUBMBQKHWl1CXQQFggnMAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Ftopic%2Fsoc.genealogy.medieval%2FlP0vkKSf0Dc&usg=AOvVaw1NnWcYFgMTxuq-d_JqamCI.
- Hello Jamie, the parents given for https://fabpedigree.com/s090/f041028.htm are incorrect they result of a conflation. Thomas Forster and Elizabeth Carr DID HAVE a son named Reginald but he was not the immigrant he was Reginald Forster "of Burton" who married a woman named Ann, buried 03 September 1676, had a daughter named Grace, buried 11 March 1655/56 and a son Thomas Forster "of Lucker" buried 30 October 1677 in Lucker Chapel, Northumberland. The immigrant Reginald Foster is of unknown parentage he was possibly connected to the main Forster family but how is unknown.
- Here's an error Jamie found all by himself,
literally just a few minutes after uploading V84!
Katherine OWTRED's parents are in the database TWICE. OWTRED = UGHTRED.