The PEDIGREE of
Joachim von RAMEL

     Born:   ?   Died:  aft. 1585


HM Beatrix's 11-Great Grandfather.       HRH Catharina-Amalia's 13-Great Grandfather.
Those who cannot change their minds cannot change anything.
 Wife/Partner:       Elisabeth (Ilse) von MANTEUFFEL
 Child:       Henning von RAMEL
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/-- Arndt RAMEL  (? - 1189+)
/-- Odemar RAMEL  (? - 1200+)
/-- Herbert RAMEL  (? - by 1256)
/-- Johannes von RAMEL  (? - 1303+)
/  \-- Gerburg
/-- Arndt von RAMEL  (? - 1306+)
/  \-- Miroslawa ROSWAROWICE
/-- Odemar von RAMEL  (? - 1322+)
/-- Arndt (d.J.) von RAMEL  (? - 1373+)
/-- Heinrich (Henning) von RAMEL  (? - 1432+)
/-- Beticke von RAMEL
/-- Beticke von RAMEL
/-- Henning (Georg) von RAMEL
/  
- Joachim von RAMEL
\ 
\-- Ursula von der OSTEN
 
 
  His 3-Great Grandchild:       Paul Anton von KAMEKE
 
  His 9-Great Grandchildren:       Adelheid zur LIPPE   ;   Bernhard Kasimir (Prince) zur LIPPE-BIESTERFELD
 

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