The PEDIGREE of
Lucia (poss. de SAY)

     Born:  abt. 1229


Poss. U.S. President [WASHINGTON]'s 15-Great Grandmother.       Poss. HRH Charles's 23-Great Grandmother.       Poss. PM Churchill's 21-Great Grandmother.       Poss. Lady Diana's 22-Great Grandmother.       Poss. PM Cameron's 21-Great Grandmother.       Poss. `Osawatomie' Brown's 18-Great Grandmother.       Poss. Jamie's 23-Great Grandmother.

 poss. Husbands/Partners:       Thomas (Sir; of Preston) de ARDERNE   ;   Thomas de ARDERNE (son of William
 Possible Children:       Thomas (Sir; of Preston) d' ARDERNE   ;   Ralph (Sir; of Preston) d' ARDERNE
 Alternative Mothers of Possible Children:       poss. Eustachia (q.v., other Thomas' wife)   ;   Rose (de) VERNON
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/-- Osborn (Osbern) FitzRICHARD   +====> [ 3]
/-- Hugh FitzOSBERN  (1103? - by 1140)
/  \-- Nest (Nesta Mary) verch GRUFFYDD   +====> [ 255 ,g,D,&]
/-- Hugh (of Richard's Castle) de SAY  (? - 1190?)
\-- Eustachia (de) SAY   +====> [ 4]
/   | OR: prob. not Eustachia de SAY [alt ped]   +====> [ 255 ,hg,r,&]
/-- Hugh (of Richard's Castle) de SAY  (1168? - 1197?)
/  \-- poss.  Lucy (Lucia; de) CLIFFORD   +==&=> [ 255 ,GC,tm,&]
/-- poss.  Hugh (FitzHUGH) de SAY  (1197? - ?)
/-- Robert (of Fontney & Tamworth) MARMION   +====> [ 28]
/-- Robert (III; II; of Fontney & Tamworth) MARMION
/  \-- Millicent de RETHEL   +==&=> [ 255 ,gC,tmY,&]
\-- Mabel MARMION
\-- prob. not  Elizabeth (de RETHEL ?)   +====> [ 255 ,gc,tm,&]
/   | OR: Matilda BEAUCHAMP   +====> [ 255 ,hg,r,&]
- Lucia (poss. de SAY)
/-- Walter (II; Baron) CLIFFORD   +==&=> [ 255 ,GC,tm,&]
/-- Walter (III) de CLIFFORD
/  \-- Agnes de CONDET (de CUNDY; Lady of CAVENBY)   +====> [ 255 ,hg,r,&]
\-- poss.  Lucia de CLIFFORD
/-- Llewelyn Fawr (Prince) of GWYNEDD   +==&=> [ 255 ,g,tD,&]
\-- Margaret of WALES  (1202? - 1263+)
/-- John `Lackland' (King) of ENGLAND   +==&=> [ 255 ,WH,rv,&]
\-- prob.  Joan of NORTH WALES
| OR: poss. Tanglwystl (Goch) verch LLYWARCH   +==&=> [ 255 ,g,tD,&]
| OR: poss. Joan of NORTH WALES   +==&=> [ 255 ,WH,rv,&]
| or: Eve FitzWARINE
\-- Agatha de FERRERS   +==&=> [ 255 ,hGC,r,&]
| OR: Constance de RICHEMONT de BRETAGNE   +==&=> [ 255 ,WH,Rv,&]
| OR: Clemence de DAUNTSEY   +====> [ 1]
 

 
  Her (poss.) 1(+)-Great Grandchildren:       Phillipa d' ARDERNE   ;   Simon de DRAYTON   ;   Henry (Sir?; of Park Hall) de ARDEN   ;   Catherine de DRAYTON   ;   Catherine de DRAYTON [alt ped]   ;   John de DRAYTON   ;   Ralph (Sir?; of Park Hall) de ARDEN
 

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