The PEDIGREE of
William (IV; of Sele) de SAY

     Born:  by 1253    Died:  1295


Poss. HRE Charles VI's 13-Great Uncle.       U.S. President [WASHINGTON]'s 15-Great Grandfather.       HRH Charles's 21-Great Grandfather.       PM Churchill's 19-Great Grandfather.       Lady Diana's 19-Great Grandfather.       PM Cameron's 21-Great Grandfather.       HRH Albert II's 21-Great Grandfather.       `Osawatomie' Brown's 18-Great Half-Uncle.       Jamie's 24-Great Half-Uncle.

 Wife/Partner:       Elizabeth (Mary)
 Child:       Geoffrey (III) de SAY
 Possible Child:       (Miss) de SAY
 Alternative Father of Possible Child:       William (III; of Sele) de SAY
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/-- Geoffrey de SAY   +====> [ 255 ,hg,r,&]
/   | (skip this generation?)
/-- William de SAY (SAYE)  (? - 1144)
/  \-- Hawise de CLARE   (skip?)   +==&=> [ 255 ,HG,&]
/-- Geoffrey de SAY (SAYE)  (? - 1214?)
/-- William de MANDEVILLE   +====> [ 1]
\-- Beatrice (de) MANDEVILLE  (1105? - 1197)
/   \-- prob.  Margaret de RIE (RYE)   +==&=> [ 255 ,hGC,&]
/-- Geoffrey (II) de SAY (SAYE)
/-- Walkelin MAMINOT   +====> [ 255 ,g,tD,&]
/   | (skip this generation?)
/-- Walkeline MAMINOT  (? - 1182?)
| (skip this generation?)
/  \-- poss.  (Miss) de FERRERS   (skip?)   +====> [ 255 ,gc,tmD,&]
\-- Lettice (Alice Aeliz) MAMINOT
| or: prob. not Alice de CHESNEY, q.v.
/-- Aubrey (Alberic; II) de VERE   +==&=> [ 255 ,hGC,&]
\-- Juliana (de) VERE  (Norfolk 1116? - 1199)   (skip?)
/   \-- Adeliza (Alice) de CLARE (CLAIR)   +==&=> [ 255 ,HG,&]
/-- William (III; of Sele) de SAY  (by 1210 - by 1272)
/-- Ralf de CAISNETO (CHESNEY; CHASNEY)   +====> [ 1]
/   | or: poss. Richard (Ralf's brother)
/-- Ralf de CAISNETO
/  \-- prob.  Maud de WATERVILLE   +====> [ 1]
/-- John de CAISNETO
| or: poss. William de CHENEY
/-- Hugh MAMINOT  (? - by 1131)
\-- poss.  Aliz MAMINOT
| or: Emma
/   \-- Emme PEVEREL   +====> [ 255 ,g,tD,&]
/  \-- Alice de CHESNEY (CAISNETO)
- William (IV; of Sele) de SAY
\-- Mary
| or: poss. Sibyl MARSHALL (1st wife), q.v.
 

 
  His (poss.) Grandchildren:       Katherine de SAYE   ;   Geoffrey (IV; Admiral) de SAY   ;   Juliane de SAY   ;   Bartholomew de SUDELEY
 

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