The PEDIGREE of
John de SAY

Poss. HM George I's 16-Great Uncle.       U.S. President [PIERCE]'s 18-Great Grandfather.       HRH Charles's 23-Great Grandfather.       PM Churchill's 21-Great Grandfather.       Lady Diana's 22-Great Grandfather.       PM Cameron's 21-Great Grandfather.       Gen. Pierpont Hamilton's 21-Great Grandfather.       `Osawatomie' Brown's 18-Great Grandfather.       Jamie's 23-Great Half-Uncle.

 Wife/Partner:       Amice de SAY
 Child:       Hawise de SAY
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/-- Robert `Picot' de SAY of CLUN   +====> [ 4]
/-- poss.  Henry de SAY (SAYE) (Lord) of CLUN
| or: Robert (Henry's father)
| or: William de SAYE
/  \-- Adeloyes
/-- William de SAYE
/-- Geoffrey de SAY  (1094?? - ?)
| (skip this generation?)
/  \-- Agnes GRANTMESNIL   +====> [ 255 ,hg,r,&]
/-- William de SAY (SAYE)  (? - 1144)
/  \-- Hawise de CLARE   (skip?)   +==&=> [ 255 ,HG,&]
/-- Geoffrey de SAY (SAYE)  (? - 1214?)
/-- Geoffrey de MANDEVILLE  (1036? - 1086+)
/-- William de MANDEVILLE  (Oxford 1062? - 1130)
/  \-- Adeliza (Athelaise) de BALTS  (1038? - ?)
\-- Beatrice (de) MANDEVILLE  (1105? - 1197)
/   \-- prob.  Margaret de RIE (RYE)   +==&=> [ 255 ,hGC,&]
/-- prob.  Geoffrey de SAY  (Suffolk)
/-- Alberic (I) `the Monk' de VERE   +==&=> [ 255 ,GC,t,&]
/-- Aubrey (Alberic; II) de VERE
\-- Beatrice (poss. de GAND; GHENT)   +====> [ 255 ,hg,&]
/   | OR: poss. Beatrice de GHISNES   +==&=> [ 255 ,gC,tmD,&]
/-- Aubrey (Alberic) III de VERE
/  \-- Adeliza (Alice) de CLARE (CLAIR)   +==&=> [ 255 ,HG,&]
\-- Alice de VERE  (? - 1217)
/-- Robert (de ESSEX) FitzSUAIN   +====> [ 3]
/-- Henry of ESSEX (de ABRINCIS ?)
/  \-- Gunnor (Gunnora) (le) BIGOD   +==&=> [ 255 ,hGC,r,&]
\-- Lucia (Lucy Agnes) of ESSEX (de ABRINCIS ?)
| or: poss. Agnes BIGOD
| OR: prob. not Lucy de ABRINCIS [alt ped]   +==&=> [ 255 ,hGC,&]
/-- poss.  Robert   +====> [ 1]
\-- Cecily of RAYLEIGH  (1101? - ?)
/   | or: Cecily de CAMVILLE
- John de SAY
\-- prob.  Aline  (? - 1252+)
 

 
  His (poss.) 4-Great Grandchildren:       John (of Upton) MARSHALL   ;   John MORLEY   ;   Robert MORLEY   ;   Maud (Mawd) MORLEY
 

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