Pedigree: Lucia (poss. de SAY)

The PEDIGREE of

Lucia (poss. de SAY)

Born: abt. 1229

Poss. U.S. President^{_[WASHINGTON]}'s 15-Great Grandmother. Poss. HRH Charles's 23-Great Grandmother. Poss. PM Churchill's 21-Great Grandmother. Poss. Lady Diana's 22-Great Grandmother. Poss. PM Cameron's 21-Great Grandmother. Poss. `Osawatomie' Brown's 18-Great Grandmother. Poss. Jamie's 23-Great Grandmother.

poss. Husbands/Partners: Thomas (Sir; of Preston) de ARDERNE ; Thomas de ARDERNE (son of William
Possible Children: Thomas (Sir; of Preston) d' ARDERNE ; Ralph (Sir; of Preston or of Drayton) d' ARDERNE
Alternative Mothers of Possible Children: poss. Eustachia (q.v., other Thomas' wife) ; Rose (de) VERNON

________	________	________	________	_______	_______
				/	-- Osborn (Osbern) FitzRICHARD +	====> [ 3]
			/	-- Hugh FitzOSBERN (1103? - by 1140)
			/	\	-- Nest (Nesta Mary) verch GRUFFYDD +	====> [ 255 ,g,D,&]
		/	-- Hugh (of Richard's Castle) de SAY (? - 1190?)
		\|	\	-- Eustachia (de) SAY +		====> [ 4]
		/			/ OR: prob. not Eustachia de SAY [alt ped] +	====> [ 255 ,hg,r,&]
	/	-- Hugh (of Richard's Castle) de SAY (1168? - 1197?)
	/	\	-- poss. Lucy (Lucia; de) CLIFFORD +			==&=> [ 255 ,GC,tm,&]
/	-- poss. Hugh (FitzHUGH) de SAY (1197? - ?)
\|	\		/	-- Robert (of Fontney & Tamworth) MARMION +		====> [ 28]
\|	\|	/	-- Robert (III; II; of Fontney & Tamworth) MARMION
\|	\|	/	\	-- Millicent de RETHEL +		==&=> [ 255 ,gC,tmY,&]
\|	\	-- Mabel MARMION
\|		\	-- prob. not Elizabeth (de RETHEL ?) +			====> [ 255 ,gc,tm,&]
/				/ OR: Matilda BEAUCHAMP +		====> [ 255 ,hg,r,&]
- Lucia (poss. de SAY)
\		/	-- Walter (II; Baron) CLIFFORD +			==&=> [ 255 ,GC,tm,&]
\|	/	-- Walter (III) de CLIFFORD
\|	/	\	-- Agnes de CONDET (de CUNDY; Lady of CAVENBY) +			====> [ 255 ,hg,r,&]
\	-- poss. Lucia de CLIFFORD
	\	/	-- Llewelyn Fawr (Prince) of GWYNEDD +			==&=> [ 255 ,g,tD,&]
	\	-- Margaret of WALES (1202? - 1263+)
		\	/	-- John `Lackland' (King) of ENGLAND +		==&=> [ 255 ,WH,rv,&]
		\	-- prob. Joan of NORTH WALES
			\	/ or: Eve FitzWARINE
			\|	/ OR: poss. Tanglwystl (GOCH) verch LLYWARCH +		==&=> [ 255 ,g,tD,&]
			\	-- Agatha de FERRERS +		==&=> [ 255 ,hGC,r,&]
					/ OR: Constance de RICHEMONT de BRETAGNE +	==&=> [ 255 ,WH,Rv,&]
					/ OR: Clemence de DAUNTSEY +	====> [ 1]

Her (poss.) Grandchildren: Robert (Sir; of Preston) d' ARDERNE ; Lucy de ARDERNE ; Phillippa DARDERNE ; Ralph (Sir?; of Park Hall) de ARDEN ; Phillipa d' ARDERNE ; Roger (of Horsted Keynes) LEWKNOR (LEWKENOR) ; Simon de DRAYTON ; Henry (Sir?; of Park Hall) de ARDEN