The PEDIGREE of
John (Sir; de) SAY

     William de SAY

Poss. U.S. President [John ADAMS]'s 10-Great Grandfather.       Poss. HRH Charles's 16-Great Grandfather.       Poss. PM Churchill's 15-Great Grandfather.       Poss. Lady Diana's 14-Great Grandfather.       Poss. PM Cameron's 17-Great Grandfather.       Poss. Gen. Pierpont Hamilton's 15-Great Grandfather.       Poss. Jamie's 17-Great Grandfather.

 Wife/Partner:       Maud
 Possible Child:       John III (Sir; of Broxbourne) de SAY
 Alternative Father of Possible Child:       poss. William(?) de SAY
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/-- William (IV; of Sele) de SAY   +==&=> [ 255 ,hGC,r,&]
/-- Geoffrey (III) de SAY
/  \-- Elizabeth (Mary)  (? - 1295?)
/-- Geoffrey (IV; Admiral) de SAY
/-- William (1st Baron; de) LEYBOURNE   +==&=> [ 255 ,WH,Rv,&]
\-- Idonea (de) LEYBOURNE  (? - 1369?)
/   \-- Juliana (de) SANDWICH   +==&=> [ 255 ,hGC,T,&]
/-- prob. not  John (Sir; de) SAY  (1339?? - 1382)
/-- William (de ALCASTER) de BEAUCHAMP   +==&=> [ 255 ,wHaG,Rv,&]
/-- Guy (de) BEAUCHAMP  (1278 - 1315)
/  \-- Maud FitzJOHN   +==&=> [ 255 ,wHG,Rv,&]
\-- Maud (de) BEAUCHAMP  (1311? - 1368?)
/-- Ralph (Roger) VII de TOENI   +==&=> [ 255 ,WHa,Rv,&]
\-- Alice (Countess) de TOENI  (1284? - 1324?)
/   \-- Mary (Clarissa) (poss. de BOHUN)   +====> [ 255 ,wha,rv,&]
- John (Sir; de) SAY
/-- William (of WEMME) BUTLER   +==&=> [ 255 ,WH,r,&]
/-- William (Sir) le BOTILLER  (1296 - 1361)
\-- Beatrice  (? - 1305+)
/   | OR: prob. not Ela (de) HERDEBURGH   +==&=> [ 255 ,WHa,Rv,&]
/-- William (IV; le) BOTILLER  (1331? - 1369)
/-- Richard FitzALAN de ARUNDEL   +==&=> [ 255 ,WHa,Rv,&]
\-- Margaret FitzALAN
/   \-- Alisona (Alisia) de SALUZZA (del VASTO)   +==&=> [ 255 ,WHa,RV,&]
\-- prob. not  Elizabeth (le) BOTILLER  (1345? - 1411?)
/-- William (Sir; of Charlton) de HANDSACRE   +====> [ 8]
/-- William (Sir; of Charlton) de HANDESACRE
| or: prob. not Joan de SUDELEY, q.v.
/  \-- Alice
\-- Elizabeth de HANDESACRE  (1324? - 1361+)
| or: prob. not Joan de SUDELEY, q.v.
| OR: poss. Elizabeth de HOLAND (HOLLAND)   +==&=> [ 255 ,WHa,Rv,&]
\-- Eleanor (1295? - ?)
 

 
  His (poss.) Grandchildren:       Elizabeth SAY   ;   Thomas de SAY   ;   Anne (de) SAY   ;   Martha SAYE   ;   William SAYE   ;   Katherine SAY
 

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